[ELECTRON] Equipment in the room

Alice fleabite531 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 28 11:50:11 BST 2014


No, the London space doesn't have anyone "on duty" - members have 24/7
access and there's lots of different rooms and projects with bits if kit
in.
On 28 Aug 2014 11:43, "Bob Hamilton" <bob at citystrolls.com> wrote:

> Good signage is useful. Thing about the London gaff is there is prob
> people there all and every day to keep check. We don't have the capacity to
> constantly keep an eye on what happens. Still we do not bad considering the
> Electron is completely self governed. More task sharing would be good,
> maintenance day, task list maybe.
>
> If I had stuff in the club I didn't want folk messin with I would clear
> out one of the cubicles in the shelves, put stuff in it, leave a notice,
> saying what it is, whose it is, or group, leave a contact and when folk can
> tinker if so interested or "Do not touch". Use Alices suggestion below for
> displaced retro junk, or distribute it evenly across other junk. Bob.
>
>
> On 27/08/2014 18:02, Rob Spencer wrote:
>
>> Check who has signed out the key. Someone must know. It's
>> unacceptable that people's hardwork goes to waste by tinkering
>> hands.
>>
>> Or just rig up a video camera. Simples.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>  On 27 Aug 2014, at 16:51, Alice <fleabite531 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm wondering how other hackspaces solve this problem. The one in
>>> London (which is amazing btw and everyone who can should visit if
>>> they can. They have open evenings every Tuesday) has a ton of
>>> equipment. I remember there being a lot of signage. I'll be going
>>> along anyway as moving to london for 5 months in September, so I'll
>>> find out how they do it and if their system works. As you said,
>>> this is an ongoing problem and we need a longterm solution.
>>>
>>> Another thing I liked there was a rotating 3 week bin system for
>>> old bits of kit etc. The bins are moved steadily downstream and
>>> anything left in by week 3 gets thrown out. Yes, this again... read
>>> on, there's a nice horror story.
>>>
>>> On Monday I visited the room to find that someone had been messing
>>> around with the router and the computer. The router wasn't
>>> responding to WiFi requests, on investigation someone had plugged
>>> in a cable between ports 3 and 4 which seems to cause it to fail
>>> totally. It's a fairly old piece of low end kit, while it does the
>>> job it's seemingly easily confused.
>>>
>>> Various wires including the network connection had been removed
>>> from the computer.
>>>
>>> Perhaps more dangerously someone had changed two of the wires on my
>>> 3D printer. The temperature sensors for the hotend and bed had
>>> been switched. As consequence when heating the extruder the system
>>> was getting a temperature reading for the bed, which was ambient
>>> temperature, and continued to throw more and more power to heat
>>> the hotend. I quickly noted the black smoke, hit the emergency stop
>>> and opened the windows.
>>>
>>> The hotend/jhead are unsalvagable, the replacements are an outgoing
>>> I could have done without.
>>>
>>> I and other members are growing tired of having to tidy up the
>>> room and/or fix the infrastructure when we arrive so that it's fit
>>> for others to use. We shouldn't have to be doing this. I shouldn't
>>> have to be sending this email. People should expect the equipment
>>> to be be in a safe working state, or at least the state their
>>> projects were in on previous use, given that some items are left in
>>> the room in a damaged state, awaiting repair.
>>>
>>> Safety and security are the issues here. There is a lot of
>>> equipment in the room which, if used incorrectly could do some real
>>> damage, either to the equipment or the user, the consequences of
>>> using equipment that has been tampered with are potentially much
>>> worse.
>>>
>>> If you see someone messing around with something stop them, or at
>>> least raise the issue. If you're hosting an event you are
>>> responsible for your guests.
>>>
>>> If you have any questions or would like to discuss these matters
>>> further please let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
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