[ELECTRON] Equipment in the room

Bob Hamilton bob at citystrolls.com
Thu Aug 28 11:42:32 BST 2014


Good signage is useful. Thing about the London gaff is there is prob 
people there all and every day to keep check. We don't have the capacity 
to constantly keep an eye on what happens. Still we do not bad 
considering the Electron is completely self governed. More task sharing 
would be good, maintenance day, task list maybe.

If I had stuff in the club I didn't want folk messin with I would clear 
out one of the cubicles in the shelves, put stuff in it, leave a notice, 
saying what it is, whose it is, or group, leave a contact and when folk 
can tinker if so interested or "Do not touch". Use Alices suggestion 
below for displaced retro junk, or distribute it evenly across other 
junk. Bob.


On 27/08/2014 18:02, Rob Spencer wrote:
> Check who has signed out the key. Someone must know. It's
> unacceptable that people's hardwork goes to waste by tinkering
> hands.
>
> Or just rig up a video camera. Simples.
>
> Cheers
>
> Rob
>
>> On 27 Aug 2014, at 16:51, Alice <fleabite531 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm wondering how other hackspaces solve this problem. The one in
>> London (which is amazing btw and everyone who can should visit if
>> they can. They have open evenings every Tuesday) has a ton of
>> equipment. I remember there being a lot of signage. I'll be going
>> along anyway as moving to london for 5 months in September, so I'll
>> find out how they do it and if their system works. As you said,
>> this is an ongoing problem and we need a longterm solution.
>>
>> Another thing I liked there was a rotating 3 week bin system for
>> old bits of kit etc. The bins are moved steadily downstream and
>> anything left in by week 3 gets thrown out. Yes, this again... read
>> on, there's a nice horror story.
>>
>> On Monday I visited the room to find that someone had been messing
>> around with the router and the computer. The router wasn't
>> responding to WiFi requests, on investigation someone had plugged
>> in a cable between ports 3 and 4 which seems to cause it to fail
>> totally. It's a fairly old piece of low end kit, while it does the
>> job it's seemingly easily confused.
>>
>> Various wires including the network connection had been removed
>> from the computer.
>>
>> Perhaps more dangerously someone had changed two of the wires on my
>> 3D printer. The temperature sensors for the hotend and bed had
>> been switched. As consequence when heating the extruder the system
>> was getting a temperature reading for the bed, which was ambient
>> temperature, and continued to throw more and more power to heat
>> the hotend. I quickly noted the black smoke, hit the emergency stop
>> and opened the windows.
>>
>> The hotend/jhead are unsalvagable, the replacements are an outgoing
>> I could have done without.
>>
>> I and other members are growing tired of having to tidy up the
>> room and/or fix the infrastructure when we arrive so that it's fit
>> for others to use. We shouldn't have to be doing this. I shouldn't
>> have to be sending this email. People should expect the equipment
>> to be be in a safe working state, or at least the state their
>> projects were in on previous use, given that some items are left in
>> the room in a damaged state, awaiting repair.
>>
>> Safety and security are the issues here. There is a lot of
>> equipment in the room which, if used incorrectly could do some real
>> damage, either to the equipment or the user, the consequences of
>> using equipment that has been tampered with are potentially much
>> worse.
>>
>> If you see someone messing around with something stop them, or at
>> least raise the issue. If you're hosting an event you are
>> responsible for your guests.
>>
>> If you have any questions or would like to discuss these matters
>> further please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Martin
>>
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