[ELECTRON] GLASGOW STUDENTS AGAINST CUTS: Monday 29th November: New Glasgow-wide day of education/planning against cuts and for resistance

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"I would also point out that technology itself and its uses are political."

This pretty much sums up how I feel.

--- On Tue, 30/11/10, M.Hersh <m.hersh at elec.gla.ac.uk> wrote:

> From: M.Hersh <m.hersh at elec.gla.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] GLASGOW STUDENTS AGAINST CUTS: Monday 29th November: New Glasgow-wide day of education/planning against cuts and for resistance
> To: members at electronclub.org
> Date: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 11:01
> Hi,
> I would also point out that technology itself and its uses
> are political.
> Marion
> 
> On 30/11/2010 10:51, Benjamin Dembroski wrote:
> > Hi Tom.
> >
> > This is a topic that comes up again and again on this
> list.
> >
> > The Electron Club is a pretty diverse and dynamic
> place.  Some members
> > are very politically active and vocal, and others seem
> to be more
> > interested in the practical side of hacking and
> tinkering.  Others
> > (who I suspect are the majority of members) occupy
> some kind of middle
> > ground.   As a result, there are
> several opinions of what is and isn't
> > valid activity for the EC.
> >
> > Personally, I think this is a good thing.  The
> constant questioning of
> > this sort of thing helps keep the Electron Club
> vibrant.  It also
> > helps keep any one group from dominating the
> club.  As long as things
> > stay civil, and don't get too extreme I'd keep posting
> relevant
> > things, political or not.  If a line is crossed,
> it will certainly be
> > called out and debated.
> >
> > This also means folks shouldn't post if they aren't
> prepared to get an
> > occasional dissenting opinion.  Hopefully the
> noise won't be too much
> > for people to bear.
> >
> > best,
> > Ben D.
> >
> > On Tuesday, November 30, 2010, Thomas Coles<tomcoles at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> >> Apologies.
> >> If we use Twitter to organise, copyleft for our
> output, netwar concepts to take action, or campaign on net
> neutrality, IP law etc, do we fit the remit of the electron
> club? (I count myself as a member.)
> >>
> >> Concepts of "free" are deeply political. FOSS is
> deeply political, mapping is deeply political. Is the
> Electron Club only for "practical", ie. instrumental
> projects? If you ignore the politics of what you are doing I
> worry you will be taken for a ride at some point.
> >>
> >> (remember the CCA is in line for cuts, the
> Electron Club is the Big Society in action etc etc.)
> >> Apologies again, I won't post again if that seems
> to be the desire of the community.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> On 29 November 2010 20:13, Ben Dembroski<ben at dembroski.net> 
> wrote:
> >> I'd tend to agree that the original email is
> off-topic for this list.
> >>
> >> However, the event is being hosted at the CCA, so
> I'd give this one the
> >> benefit of the doubt.
> >>
> >> 2p.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ben D.
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 18:54 +0000, James Beeley
> wrote:
> >>> I agree with Gordon. The discussions about
> potential free broadband,
> >>> funky moving underpass lights, George Square
> Christmas lighting
> >>> hardware, etc. have been interesting and
> welcome. However protests about
> >>> cuts have no place on the EC mailing list. If
> people wish to protest
> >>> peacefully, by all means do so, but don't spam
> up the EC mailing list
> >>> with this stuff.
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 18:02 +0000, Gordon JC
> Pearce wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 15:28 +0000, Thomas
> Coles wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>
> >>>> Take the politics somewhere else, please.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gordon MM0YEQ
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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