[ELECTRON] GLASGOW STUDENTS AGAINST CUTS: Monday 29th November: New Glasgow-wide day of education/planning against cuts and for resistance

Michael Orgel miguel at phonecoop.coop
Tue Nov 30 12:35:46 UTC 2010


Marion is correct.
Keep posting as you see fit Tom!
Miguel

On 30 Nov 2010, at 11:01, M.Hersh wrote:

> Hi,
> I would also point out that technology itself and its uses are  
> political.
> Marion
>
> On 30/11/2010 10:51, Benjamin Dembroski wrote:
>> Hi Tom.
>>
>> This is a topic that comes up again and again on this list.
>>
>> The Electron Club is a pretty diverse and dynamic place.  Some  
>> members
>> are very politically active and vocal, and others seem to be more
>> interested in the practical side of hacking and tinkering.  Others
>> (who I suspect are the majority of members) occupy some kind of  
>> middle
>> ground.   As a result, there are several opinions of what is and  
>> isn't
>> valid activity for the EC.
>>
>> Personally, I think this is a good thing.  The constant  
>> questioning of
>> this sort of thing helps keep the Electron Club vibrant.  It also
>> helps keep any one group from dominating the club.  As long as things
>> stay civil, and don't get too extreme I'd keep posting relevant
>> things, political or not.  If a line is crossed, it will certainly be
>> called out and debated.
>>
>> This also means folks shouldn't post if they aren't prepared to  
>> get an
>> occasional dissenting opinion.  Hopefully the noise won't be too much
>> for people to bear.
>>
>> best,
>> Ben D.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2010, Thomas Coles<tomcoles at gmail.com>   
>> wrote:
>>> Apologies.
>>> If we use Twitter to organise, copyleft for our output, netwar  
>>> concepts to take action, or campaign on net neutrality, IP law  
>>> etc, do we fit the remit of the electron club? (I count myself as  
>>> a member.)
>>>
>>> Concepts of "free" are deeply political. FOSS is deeply  
>>> political, mapping is deeply political. Is the Electron Club only  
>>> for "practical", ie. instrumental projects? If you ignore the  
>>> politics of what you are doing I worry you will be taken for a  
>>> ride at some point.
>>>
>>> (remember the CCA is in line for cuts, the Electron Club is the  
>>> Big Society in action etc etc.)
>>> Apologies again, I won't post again if that seems to be the  
>>> desire of the community.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On 29 November 2010 20:13, Ben Dembroski<ben at dembroski.net>  wrote:
>>> I'd tend to agree that the original email is off-topic for this  
>>> list.
>>>
>>> However, the event is being hosted at the CCA, so I'd give this  
>>> one the
>>> benefit of the doubt.
>>>
>>> 2p.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ben D.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 18:54 +0000, James Beeley wrote:
>>>> I agree with Gordon. The discussions about potential free  
>>>> broadband,
>>>> funky moving underpass lights, George Square Christmas lighting
>>>> hardware, etc. have been interesting and welcome. However  
>>>> protests about
>>>> cuts have no place on the EC mailing list. If people wish to  
>>>> protest
>>>> peacefully, by all means do so, but don't spam up the EC mailing  
>>>> list
>>>> with this stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 18:02 +0000, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 15:28 +0000, Thomas Coles wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take the politics somewhere else, please.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gordon MM0YEQ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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