[ELECTRON] GLASGOW STUDENTS AGAINST CUTS: Monday 29th November: New Glasgow-wide day of education/planning against cuts and for resistance

Tue Nov 30 14:56:11 UTC 2010

I would be interested in more discussion of the politics of technology, 
which tends to be ignored by most other organisations, though technology 
is at the basis of a lot of what we do.
Marion

On 30/11/2010 14:42, Firebrand_Boy wrote:
> "I would also point out that technology itself and its uses are political."
>
> This pretty much sums up how I feel.
>
> --- On Tue, 30/11/10, M.Hersh<m.hersh at elec.gla.ac.uk>  wrote:
>
>> From: M.Hersh<m.hersh at elec.gla.ac.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] GLASGOW STUDENTS AGAINST CUTS: Monday 29th November: New Glasgow-wide day of education/planning against cuts and for resistance
>> To: members at electronclub.org
>> Date: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 11:01
>> Hi,
>> I would also point out that technology itself and its uses
>> are political.
>> Marion
>>
>> On 30/11/2010 10:51, Benjamin Dembroski wrote:
>>> Hi Tom.
>>>
>>> This is a topic that comes up again and again on this
>> list.
>>> The Electron Club is a pretty diverse and dynamic
>> place.  Some members
>>> are very politically active and vocal, and others seem
>> to be more
>>> interested in the practical side of hacking and
>> tinkering.  Others
>>> (who I suspect are the majority of members) occupy
>> some kind of middle
>>> ground.   As a result, there are
>> several opinions of what is and isn't
>>> valid activity for the EC.
>>>
>>> Personally, I think this is a good thing.  The
>> constant questioning of
>>> this sort of thing helps keep the Electron Club
>> vibrant.  It also
>>> helps keep any one group from dominating the
>> club.  As long as things
>>> stay civil, and don't get too extreme I'd keep posting
>> relevant
>>> things, political or not.  If a line is crossed,
>> it will certainly be
>>> called out and debated.
>>>
>>> This also means folks shouldn't post if they aren't
>> prepared to get an
>>> occasional dissenting opinion.  Hopefully the
>> noise won't be too much
>>> for people to bear.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Ben D.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2010, Thomas Coles<tomcoles at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Apologies.
>>>> If we use Twitter to organise, copyleft for our
>> output, netwar concepts to take action, or campaign on net
>> neutrality, IP law etc, do we fit the remit of the electron
>> club? (I count myself as a member.)
>>>> Concepts of "free" are deeply political. FOSS is
>> deeply political, mapping is deeply political. Is the
>> Electron Club only for "practical", ie. instrumental
>> projects? If you ignore the politics of what you are doing I
>> worry you will be taken for a ride at some point.
>>>> (remember the CCA is in line for cuts, the
>> Electron Club is the Big Society in action etc etc.)
>>>> Apologies again, I won't post again if that seems
>> to be the desire of the community.
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> On 29 November 2010 20:13, Ben Dembroski<ben at dembroski.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> I'd tend to agree that the original email is
>> off-topic for this list.
>>>> However, the event is being hosted at the CCA, so
>> I'd give this one the
>>>> benefit of the doubt.
>>>>
>>>> 2p.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ben D.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 18:54 +0000, James Beeley
>> wrote:
>>>>> I agree with Gordon. The discussions about
>> potential free broadband,
>>>>> funky moving underpass lights, George Square
>> Christmas lighting
>>>>> hardware, etc. have been interesting and
>> welcome. However protests about
>>>>> cuts have no place on the EC mailing list. If
>> people wish to protest
>>>>> peacefully, by all means do so, but don't spam
>> up the EC mailing list
>>>>> with this stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 18:02 +0000, Gordon JC
>> Pearce wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 15:28 +0000, Thomas
>> Coles wrote:
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take the politics somewhere else, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gordon MM0YEQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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