[ELECTRON] making use of public spaces in Scotlad

Wed Aug 18 12:06:38 UTC 2010

Bob

definitely a topic I d like to see an unconference about :-)

'the commons in Scotland'

I found these background resources

http://www.scottishcommons.org/docs/commonweal_1.pdf

http://communitylandtrusts.org.uk/cms/resources/uploads/File/history_and_background(1).pdf

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio at gmail.com>wrote:

> thanks Bob, and Nina
>
> yes I had seen some activity re the common good (some event took place
> earlier this year)
>
> where I come from (dont ask) this stuff comes under a broader topic, which
> is 'the commons'
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
>
> there is a big global movement that concerns itself with the common good,
>  while we follow creative commons as 'common intellectual property'
> there are other important pieces of the commons puzzle, startin from the
> law of the commons
>
> http://onthecommons.org/law-commons
>
> I would think that the work being done under inthecommongood website may
> benefit from being aligned to the wider global movement
> to leverage its strenght, in terms of knowledge and resources
> It may benefit from being clustered under the bigger umbrella
>
> lots of work to be done,  shall we organise an unconference where people
> can provide an overview
> of each different summary and perspective, then ask people to participate
> in the movement by
> sharing someting of their own for the common good?
>
> or something?
>
> PDM
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob <bob at citystrolls.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi P. Common Good?
>>
>> Sorta thing the common good could and should be used for
>> http://www.inthecommongood.org/
>>
>> There is tons of space around, unfortunately it is being sold from under
>> our noses. Two problems with the common good is. 1. the lack of awareness
>> that it exists and 2. The lack of interest in its use as an organising tool
>> in creating "true" public institutions for the uses that you are describing.
>> Have a look B.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17/08/2010 13:22, Paola Di Maio wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ben
>>>
>>> Useful info as an example of social enterprise, and probably material for
>>> a
>>> case study
>>>
>>>  the model is fantastic and precisely what I d like to see more of,
>>> especially when it comes to
>>> organisations that advertise themselves as 'social enterprises'
>>>
>>> Contributing  at least some organisational resources go common use should
>>> be
>>> a condition of all social enterprises
>>> or at least, should be brownie points for  any publicly funded projects
>>> imho
>>>
>>> Tons of public spaces funded by public money in Edinburgh, how come
>>> nobody
>>> is offering a room for
>>> people to use in self managed, open way?
>>>
>>> I heard someone is auditing all the underused space and maybe we can make
>>> a
>>> case for better administration of the same at some point
>>>
>>> Of course well done to everyone for managing the use of the CCA open
>>> space
>>> so creatively and diligently
>>>
>>> Thanks for that
>>>
>>> let us se if we can replicate it elsewhere
>>>
>>> PDM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Benjamin Dembroski<ben at dembroski.net
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I think the Electron Club is in a pretty unusual (and lucky) situation.
>>>>
>>>> Like Bob said, A few years ago the CCA approached a group of
>>>> like-minded people to see if we were interested in using a the small
>>>> space in the corner of the CCA.  The jist of it was: They gave us use
>>>> of the space, electrics, internet connection, some furniture, and some
>>>> older computers to use.  We could do pretty much anything we wanted,
>>>> provided that a) it wasn't illegal and, b) was in some way publicly
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> The rest was determined by the group.  We made up a few more rules
>>>> that about how the organisation would work, what it was for, and what
>>>> kinds of activities were a no-no.  That was it.  The Electron Club was
>>>> born!
>>>>
>>>> I think the only reason the CCA can justify donating the space to us&
>>>> losing the rental income for the office space is that the EC hosts
>>>> regular, free events that could be considered "Community Outreach".
>>>> (Or whatever you want to call it.) So, in exchange for a the loss of a
>>>> little rental income, the CCA gets a gaggle of motivated volunteers
>>>> that do all sorts of interesting things for free that the CCA can lay
>>>> claim to supporting.  It can only help their applications for funding,
>>>> and support.   That's why it's so important to keep the room full and
>>>> busy as much as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Use it or lose it, so the saying goes.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that sheds a little light on the conditions the EC operates
>>>> under.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ben D.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Bob<bob at citystrolls.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a good plan supporting groups already established. The
>>>>>
>>>> electron
>>>>
>>>>> doesn't cost anything and was given over to artists and folk Si et al
>>>>> working in IT, but there is no restrictions in what the space can be
>>>>> used
>>>>> for so long as it ain't illegal. Be hard pushed to find a situation
>>>>> like
>>>>> that in Edin, or anywhere else for that matter:). Good luck in your
>>>>>
>>>> search.
>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17/08/2010 11:59, chris h wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone provide some background as to what kind of deal does the
>>>>>>> Electron Club enter into with CCA, and any suggestions of where to
>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>> for something similar in Edinburgh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Autonomous Centre of Edinburgh has space and is under-utilised
>>>>>> most
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> the week. There's an occasional tech-night event there and people there
>>>>>> would be likely to be interested in carrying something like that
>>>>>>
>>>>> forward.
>>>>
>>>>> Probably some tidying up required.
>>>>>> www.autonomous.org.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - --
>>>>>> chris h
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