[ELECTRON] broadband costs
Hannah Clinch
hannah.clinch at googlemail.com
Tue Apr 28 03:45:39 UTC 2009
Hi Green Map could contribute £25.
Cheers Hannah
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM, ben dembroski <ben at dembroski.net> wrote:
> I can do 20... and an ASDL wireless router.
>
> 2009/4/27 Bob <bob at citystrolls.com>:
> > My £30 still stands. B
> >
> > Simon Yuill wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Paula,
> >>
> >> Thanks! That's a good start. It gives us £100 towards the 2 year total,
> >> of which a potential £50 could go towards the basic startup cost.
> >>
> >> I'd be willing to match that, which would give us a starting amount of
> >> £200 towards the 2 year cost.
> >>
> >> best wishes
> >> Si
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Document wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sounds good to me. Document could potentially give something once we
> >>> hear of funding say £50 pa
> >>>
> >>> Paula
> >>>
> >>> On 27/04/2009, Simon Yuill <simon at lipparosa.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have spoken with the the Phone Co-op to get details on what would
> be
> >>>> the best broadband package for us.
> >>>>
> >>>> The one that looks best value is one for small businesses they offer
> >>>> called 'Business Saver 10':
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.thephone.coop/business/soho.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Costs are:
> >>>>
> >>>> £19 + VAT a month for line rental and broadband
> >>>> £99 + VAT for line installation
> >>>> £46.59 + VAT for a ZyXel 660H 4 Port Ethernet Router/Hub,
> >>>> preconfigured
> >>>> with firewall (this is optional, if we can provide our own ADSL2+
> >>>> modem-router)
> >>>> no setup fee
> >>>>
> >>>> Phone calls are charged separately, depending on usage. The call
> >>>> charges
> >>>> are:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1.98p per minute - peak local
> >>>> 1.99p per minute - peak national
> >>>> 0.85p per minute - offpeak local
> >>>> 1.3p per minute - offpeak national
> >>>> 1.26p per minute - weekend national
> >>>> 11p per minute - peak to all mobile networks
> >>>> 8.5p per minute - offpeak to all mobile networks
> >>>>
> >>>> We have to commit to a 12 month initial contract. We can pay either
> in
> >>>> monthly installments by direct debit or in a lump sum in advance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Although the total monthly usage is much lower than the cheapest
> >>>> domestic package (Anytime Saver gives 40MB compared to the 10GB for
> the
> >>>> business package), the upload speed for business customers is much
> >>>> higher than for home users. Upload speed for business is 1024kbps
> >>>> compared to 448Kbps for home users.
> >>>>
> >>>> 10GB may not sound much but provided we are not downloading loads of
> >>>> video content it's quite a lot. There is a calculator here to help
> >>>> estimate how much would be used:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.thephone.coop/residential/broadband/capacity-calculator.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Assuming in one month that people send 2,000 standard emails, 1,000
> >>>> with
> >>>> images, spend 3 hours day surfing, watch 200 video clips, download 10
> >>>> pieces of software and make 2 big downloads, then that all comes to:
> >>>> 5.09 GB, well within the 10GB limit.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The cost for the first year would be:
> >>>>
> >>>> line installation: £99.00
> >>>> ADSL modem £46.59
> >>>> 1 year's broadband £228.00
> >>>> total (exc VAT): £373.59
> >>>>
> >>>> VAT at 17.5%: £65.38
> >>>> total (inc VAT): £438.97
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If we are going to raise funds for this, it might be sensible to try
> >>>> and
> >>>> raise enough to cover 2 years broadband usage, which would add an
> >>>> additional £267.90 (£228.00 + VAT). So the total for setup and 2
> years
> >>>> broadband would be:
> >>>>
> >>>> 2 years (inc VAT): £706.87
> >>>>
> >>>> I had a chat with Francis McKee, the director of CCA about this, and
> >>>> asked if they would be willing to chip in if we shared the broadband
> >>>> with them. This would be only for use in the Artist's Flat and the
> >>>> gallery spaces, not part of the public wifi access or CCA office
> usage.
> >>>> The Artist's Flat and gallery are two areas where the CCA sometimes
> >>>> need
> >>>> a more specialised internet access for artist doing web-based work
> >>>> (such
> >>>> as Martine Crispo who some of you might have met last year). Usage
> from
> >>>> these two sources would vary depending on what kind of artists and
> >>>> exhibitions they had in and is unlikely to be constant throughout the
> >>>> year. Francis has said that they would be interested in contributing
> -
> >>>> although final decision does not rest with him. Now that I have some
> >>>> concrete costs I will get back in touch and see what they say.
> >>>>
> >>>> In terms of making this happen at a practical level we have
> potentially
> >>>> 3 sources of funding this:
> >>>>
> >>>> - voluntary donations from groups and individuals currently
> using
> >>>> the
> >>>> space who want to make use of the broadband
> >>>> - a possible contribution from the CCA
> >>>> - money raised from fund-raising event
> >>>>
> >>>> Now that we have some concrete figures it would be good to hear from
> >>>> those who would be up for donating so we can get a sense of how much
> we
> >>>> have there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, in terms of getting it off the ground sooner rather than later
> >>>> one
> >>>> way to approach it might be to pull together enough for the basic
> >>>> install plus 3 months broadband, this would be: £238.04. Then raise
> the
> >>>> rest from CCA and the fund-raising event.
> >>>>
> >>>> So what kind of fund-raising event? Well, we had a meeting last week
> >>>> and
> >>>> I think Dan is going to get back to the list about that.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> To get things started however, it would be good to get some feedback
> >>>> from those interested in us having broadband.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> best wishes
> >>>> Si
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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