[ELECTRON] broadband costs

Mon Apr 27 21:58:22 UTC 2009

I can do 20... and an ASDL wireless router.

2009/4/27 Bob <bob at citystrolls.com>:
> My £30 still stands. B
>
> Simon Yuill wrote:
>>
>> Hi Paula,
>>
>> Thanks! That's a good start. It gives us £100 towards the  2 year total,
>> of which a potential £50 could go towards the basic startup cost.
>>
>> I'd be willing to match that, which would give us a starting amount of
>> £200 towards the 2 year cost.
>>
>> best wishes
>> Si
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Document wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds good to me. Document could potentially give something once we
>>> hear of funding say £50 pa
>>>
>>> Paula
>>>
>>> On 27/04/2009, Simon Yuill <simon at lipparosa.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>  I have spoken with the the Phone Co-op to get details on what would be
>>>>  the best broadband package for us.
>>>>
>>>>  The one that looks best value is one for small businesses they offer
>>>>  called 'Business Saver 10':
>>>>
>>>>        http://www.thephone.coop/business/soho.html
>>>>
>>>>  Costs are:
>>>>
>>>>        £19 + VAT a month for line rental and broadband
>>>>        £99 + VAT for line installation
>>>>        £46.59 + VAT for a ZyXel 660H 4 Port Ethernet Router/Hub,
>>>> preconfigured
>>>>  with firewall (this is optional, if we can provide our own ADSL2+
>>>>  modem-router)
>>>>        no setup fee
>>>>
>>>>  Phone calls are charged separately, depending on usage. The call
>>>> charges
>>>>  are:
>>>>
>>>>        1.98p per minute - peak local
>>>>        1.99p per minute - peak national
>>>>        0.85p per minute - offpeak local
>>>>        1.3p per minute - offpeak national
>>>>        1.26p per minute - weekend national
>>>>        11p per minute - peak to all mobile networks
>>>>        8.5p per minute - offpeak to all mobile networks
>>>>
>>>>  We have to commit to a 12 month initial contract. We can pay either in
>>>>  monthly installments by direct debit or in a lump sum in advance.
>>>>
>>>>  Although the total monthly usage is much lower than the cheapest
>>>>  domestic package (Anytime Saver gives 40MB compared to the 10GB for the
>>>>  business package), the upload speed for business customers is much
>>>>  higher than for home users. Upload speed for business is 1024kbps
>>>>  compared to 448Kbps for home users.
>>>>
>>>>  10GB may not sound much but provided we are not downloading loads of
>>>>  video content it's quite a lot. There is a calculator here to help
>>>>  estimate how much would be used:
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.thephone.coop/residential/broadband/capacity-calculator.html
>>>>
>>>>  Assuming in one month that people send 2,000 standard emails, 1,000
>>>> with
>>>>  images, spend 3 hours day surfing, watch 200 video clips, download 10
>>>>  pieces of software and make 2 big downloads, then that all comes to:
>>>>  5.09 GB, well within the 10GB limit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  The cost for the first year would be:
>>>>
>>>>        line installation:      £99.00
>>>>        ADSL modem              £46.59
>>>>        1 year's broadband      £228.00
>>>>        total (exc VAT):        £373.59
>>>>
>>>>        VAT at 17.5%:           £65.38
>>>>        total (inc VAT):        £438.97
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  If we are going to raise funds for this, it might be sensible to try
>>>> and
>>>>  raise enough to cover 2 years broadband usage, which would add an
>>>>  additional £267.90 (£228.00 + VAT). So the total for setup and 2 years
>>>>  broadband would be:
>>>>
>>>>        2 years (inc VAT):      £706.87
>>>>
>>>>  I had a chat with Francis McKee, the director of CCA about this, and
>>>>  asked if they would be willing to chip in if we shared the broadband
>>>>  with them. This would be only for use in the Artist's Flat and the
>>>>  gallery spaces, not part of the public wifi access or CCA office usage.
>>>>  The Artist's Flat and gallery are two areas where the CCA sometimes
>>>> need
>>>>  a more specialised internet access for artist doing web-based work
>>>> (such
>>>>  as Martine Crispo who some of you might have met last year). Usage from
>>>>  these two sources would vary depending on what kind of artists and
>>>>  exhibitions they had in and is unlikely to be constant throughout the
>>>>  year. Francis has said that they would be interested in contributing -
>>>>  although final decision does not rest with him. Now that I have some
>>>>  concrete costs I will get back in touch and see what they say.
>>>>
>>>>  In terms of making this happen at a practical level we have potentially
>>>>  3 sources of funding this:
>>>>
>>>>        - voluntary donations from groups and individuals currently using
>>>> the
>>>>  space who want to make use of the broadband
>>>>        - a possible contribution from the CCA
>>>>        - money raised from fund-raising event
>>>>
>>>>  Now that we have some concrete figures it would be good to hear from
>>>>  those who would be up for donating so we can get a sense of how much we
>>>>  have there.
>>>>
>>>>  Also, in terms of getting it off the ground sooner rather than later
>>>> one
>>>>  way to approach it might be to pull together enough for the basic
>>>>  install plus 3 months broadband, this would be: £238.04. Then raise the
>>>>  rest from CCA and the fund-raising event.
>>>>
>>>>  So what kind of fund-raising event? Well, we had a meeting last week
>>>> and
>>>>  I think Dan is going to get back to the list about that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  To get things started however, it would be good to get some feedback
>>>>  from those interested in us having broadband.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  best wishes
>>>>  Si
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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