[ELECTRON] broadband costs
Bob
bob at citystrolls.com
Mon Apr 27 21:25:21 UTC 2009
My £30 still stands. B
Simon Yuill wrote:
> Hi Paula,
>
> Thanks! That's a good start. It gives us £100 towards the 2 year total,
> of which a potential £50 could go towards the basic startup cost.
>
> I'd be willing to match that, which would give us a starting amount of
> £200 towards the 2 year cost.
>
> best wishes
> Si
>
>
>
>
> Document wrote:
>> Sounds good to me. Document could potentially give something once we
>> hear of funding say £50 pa
>>
>> Paula
>>
>> On 27/04/2009, Simon Yuill <simon at lipparosa.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have spoken with the the Phone Co-op to get details on what would be
>>> the best broadband package for us.
>>>
>>> The one that looks best value is one for small businesses they offer
>>> called 'Business Saver 10':
>>>
>>> http://www.thephone.coop/business/soho.html
>>>
>>> Costs are:
>>>
>>> £19 + VAT a month for line rental and broadband
>>> £99 + VAT for line installation
>>> £46.59 + VAT for a ZyXel 660H 4 Port Ethernet Router/Hub, preconfigured
>>> with firewall (this is optional, if we can provide our own ADSL2+
>>> modem-router)
>>> no setup fee
>>>
>>> Phone calls are charged separately, depending on usage. The call charges
>>> are:
>>>
>>> 1.98p per minute - peak local
>>> 1.99p per minute - peak national
>>> 0.85p per minute - offpeak local
>>> 1.3p per minute - offpeak national
>>> 1.26p per minute - weekend national
>>> 11p per minute - peak to all mobile networks
>>> 8.5p per minute - offpeak to all mobile networks
>>>
>>> We have to commit to a 12 month initial contract. We can pay either in
>>> monthly installments by direct debit or in a lump sum in advance.
>>>
>>> Although the total monthly usage is much lower than the cheapest
>>> domestic package (Anytime Saver gives 40MB compared to the 10GB for the
>>> business package), the upload speed for business customers is much
>>> higher than for home users. Upload speed for business is 1024kbps
>>> compared to 448Kbps for home users.
>>>
>>> 10GB may not sound much but provided we are not downloading loads of
>>> video content it's quite a lot. There is a calculator here to help
>>> estimate how much would be used:
>>>
>>> http://www.thephone.coop/residential/broadband/capacity-calculator.html
>>>
>>> Assuming in one month that people send 2,000 standard emails, 1,000 with
>>> images, spend 3 hours day surfing, watch 200 video clips, download 10
>>> pieces of software and make 2 big downloads, then that all comes to:
>>> 5.09 GB, well within the 10GB limit.
>>>
>>>
>>> The cost for the first year would be:
>>>
>>> line installation: £99.00
>>> ADSL modem £46.59
>>> 1 year's broadband £228.00
>>> total (exc VAT): £373.59
>>>
>>> VAT at 17.5%: £65.38
>>> total (inc VAT): £438.97
>>>
>>>
>>> If we are going to raise funds for this, it might be sensible to try and
>>> raise enough to cover 2 years broadband usage, which would add an
>>> additional £267.90 (£228.00 + VAT). So the total for setup and 2 years
>>> broadband would be:
>>>
>>> 2 years (inc VAT): £706.87
>>>
>>> I had a chat with Francis McKee, the director of CCA about this, and
>>> asked if they would be willing to chip in if we shared the broadband
>>> with them. This would be only for use in the Artist's Flat and the
>>> gallery spaces, not part of the public wifi access or CCA office usage.
>>> The Artist's Flat and gallery are two areas where the CCA sometimes need
>>> a more specialised internet access for artist doing web-based work (such
>>> as Martine Crispo who some of you might have met last year). Usage from
>>> these two sources would vary depending on what kind of artists and
>>> exhibitions they had in and is unlikely to be constant throughout the
>>> year. Francis has said that they would be interested in contributing -
>>> although final decision does not rest with him. Now that I have some
>>> concrete costs I will get back in touch and see what they say.
>>>
>>> In terms of making this happen at a practical level we have potentially
>>> 3 sources of funding this:
>>>
>>> - voluntary donations from groups and individuals currently using the
>>> space who want to make use of the broadband
>>> - a possible contribution from the CCA
>>> - money raised from fund-raising event
>>>
>>> Now that we have some concrete figures it would be good to hear from
>>> those who would be up for donating so we can get a sense of how much we
>>> have there.
>>>
>>> Also, in terms of getting it off the ground sooner rather than later one
>>> way to approach it might be to pull together enough for the basic
>>> install plus 3 months broadband, this would be: £238.04. Then raise the
>>> rest from CCA and the fund-raising event.
>>>
>>> So what kind of fund-raising event? Well, we had a meeting last week and
>>> I think Dan is going to get back to the list about that.
>>>
>>>
>>> To get things started however, it would be good to get some feedback
>>> from those interested in us having broadband.
>>>
>>>
>>> best wishes
>>> Si
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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