[ELECTRON] broadband costs
Simon Yuill
simon at lipparosa.org
Tue Apr 28 07:25:38 UTC 2009
That'd be great, can you check the specs of the router? It needs to be
ADSL2+ compatible.
best wishes
Si
ben dembroski wrote:
> I can do 20... and an ASDL wireless router.
>
> 2009/4/27 Bob <bob at citystrolls.com>:
>> My £30 still stands. B
>>
>> Simon Yuill wrote:
>>> Hi Paula,
>>>
>>> Thanks! That's a good start. It gives us £100 towards the 2 year total,
>>> of which a potential £50 could go towards the basic startup cost.
>>>
>>> I'd be willing to match that, which would give us a starting amount of
>>> £200 towards the 2 year cost.
>>>
>>> best wishes
>>> Si
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Document wrote:
>>>> Sounds good to me. Document could potentially give something once we
>>>> hear of funding say £50 pa
>>>>
>>>> Paula
>>>>
>>>> On 27/04/2009, Simon Yuill <simon at lipparosa.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have spoken with the the Phone Co-op to get details on what would be
>>>>> the best broadband package for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> The one that looks best value is one for small businesses they offer
>>>>> called 'Business Saver 10':
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.thephone.coop/business/soho.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Costs are:
>>>>>
>>>>> £19 + VAT a month for line rental and broadband
>>>>> £99 + VAT for line installation
>>>>> £46.59 + VAT for a ZyXel 660H 4 Port Ethernet Router/Hub,
>>>>> preconfigured
>>>>> with firewall (this is optional, if we can provide our own ADSL2+
>>>>> modem-router)
>>>>> no setup fee
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone calls are charged separately, depending on usage. The call
>>>>> charges
>>>>> are:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.98p per minute - peak local
>>>>> 1.99p per minute - peak national
>>>>> 0.85p per minute - offpeak local
>>>>> 1.3p per minute - offpeak national
>>>>> 1.26p per minute - weekend national
>>>>> 11p per minute - peak to all mobile networks
>>>>> 8.5p per minute - offpeak to all mobile networks
>>>>>
>>>>> We have to commit to a 12 month initial contract. We can pay either in
>>>>> monthly installments by direct debit or in a lump sum in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although the total monthly usage is much lower than the cheapest
>>>>> domestic package (Anytime Saver gives 40MB compared to the 10GB for the
>>>>> business package), the upload speed for business customers is much
>>>>> higher than for home users. Upload speed for business is 1024kbps
>>>>> compared to 448Kbps for home users.
>>>>>
>>>>> 10GB may not sound much but provided we are not downloading loads of
>>>>> video content it's quite a lot. There is a calculator here to help
>>>>> estimate how much would be used:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.thephone.coop/residential/broadband/capacity-calculator.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming in one month that people send 2,000 standard emails, 1,000
>>>>> with
>>>>> images, spend 3 hours day surfing, watch 200 video clips, download 10
>>>>> pieces of software and make 2 big downloads, then that all comes to:
>>>>> 5.09 GB, well within the 10GB limit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The cost for the first year would be:
>>>>>
>>>>> line installation: £99.00
>>>>> ADSL modem £46.59
>>>>> 1 year's broadband £228.00
>>>>> total (exc VAT): £373.59
>>>>>
>>>>> VAT at 17.5%: £65.38
>>>>> total (inc VAT): £438.97
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If we are going to raise funds for this, it might be sensible to try
>>>>> and
>>>>> raise enough to cover 2 years broadband usage, which would add an
>>>>> additional £267.90 (£228.00 + VAT). So the total for setup and 2 years
>>>>> broadband would be:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 years (inc VAT): £706.87
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a chat with Francis McKee, the director of CCA about this, and
>>>>> asked if they would be willing to chip in if we shared the broadband
>>>>> with them. This would be only for use in the Artist's Flat and the
>>>>> gallery spaces, not part of the public wifi access or CCA office usage.
>>>>> The Artist's Flat and gallery are two areas where the CCA sometimes
>>>>> need
>>>>> a more specialised internet access for artist doing web-based work
>>>>> (such
>>>>> as Martine Crispo who some of you might have met last year). Usage from
>>>>> these two sources would vary depending on what kind of artists and
>>>>> exhibitions they had in and is unlikely to be constant throughout the
>>>>> year. Francis has said that they would be interested in contributing -
>>>>> although final decision does not rest with him. Now that I have some
>>>>> concrete costs I will get back in touch and see what they say.
>>>>>
>>>>> In terms of making this happen at a practical level we have potentially
>>>>> 3 sources of funding this:
>>>>>
>>>>> - voluntary donations from groups and individuals currently using
>>>>> the
>>>>> space who want to make use of the broadband
>>>>> - a possible contribution from the CCA
>>>>> - money raised from fund-raising event
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that we have some concrete figures it would be good to hear from
>>>>> those who would be up for donating so we can get a sense of how much we
>>>>> have there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, in terms of getting it off the ground sooner rather than later
>>>>> one
>>>>> way to approach it might be to pull together enough for the basic
>>>>> install plus 3 months broadband, this would be: £238.04. Then raise the
>>>>> rest from CCA and the fund-raising event.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what kind of fund-raising event? Well, we had a meeting last week
>>>>> and
>>>>> I think Dan is going to get back to the list about that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To get things started however, it would be good to get some feedback
>>>>> from those interested in us having broadband.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> best wishes
>>>>> Si
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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