[ELECTRON] Beginners Programming
Bob Hamilton
bob at citystrolls.com
Fri Apr 19 12:50:40 UTC 2013
Sounds good to me. Any time is cool. Ch Bob
On 19/04/2013 13:08, DAVID BALL wrote:
> thanks john, what time is suitable for those interested. as i said I'm off
> this Monday so was wondering if we could have a couple of hours then. i did
> notice that the room is booked already at 7-9 so i was thinking perhaps
> before that if it was suitable to people starting whenever.
> i was planning of running it from the view point that no one has any
> experience at all. and i'm happy to cover both PHP and a C language if
> that is useful. i know it can seem quite daunting to begin with but my
> plan is to work through some simple examples. getting you used to the basic
> principal, getting you to tackle some simple problems and building on the
> knowledge and previous work to help you improve your understanding.
> so in the first session i would think the we should be able to cover data
> types, variables, functions, classes, procedures, objects, libraries, and
> then use them to look at creating a very simple text based dice game.
> we could then over time look at how we would expand this simple game. i
> find its always good to set a problem and see what issue arise and then
> tackle the issue and use any issues people have in the wrap up of the
> lesson so everyone can benefit from the improved understanding resolving
> the issue has given.
> regards
> dave
>
>
> On 19 April 2013 12:35, JOHN COUZIN <john.c.at95 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Bob and I were the ones who suggested some sort of course in very basic
>> coding, and I admit that my knowledge in this field is ziltch. The more I
>> read the flowing emails, the more confused I get. What I personally was
>> looking for was some very basic knowledge in coding that would help we
>> further develop my wordpress site and my mediawiki site. What that
>> knowledge would be I'm not at all sure. so for me it would be the very
>> basics. I would leave it up to the "teacher" to lay out the course along
>> the lines that he thinks are best suit to that purpose, and we could
>> concentrate on setting a time. John
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DAVID BALL <dave.ball2 at virgin.net>
>> To: Discussion list for the Electron Club <members at electronclub.org>
>> Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013, 11:54
>> Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] Beginners Programming
>>
>>
>> Blair I don't care which language people want to learn, the group can
>> cover them all as far as concerned as I've said before all the c
>> languages are part of the same family tree.
>> i was thinking for the first group to cover some main area's of
>> programming.
>> Such as variables, types, classes, functions, procedures, etc and perhaps
>> look at the differences and similarities between the languages people
>> want to learn.
>> i think it would be good to have some actual problem to solve, someone
>> mentioned yathzee which maybe a bit complicated for the first meeting but
>> perhaps we can use it as a starting point.
>> by that i mean we could look at identifying what would be need to write a
>> yathzee type game perhaps starting out with a craps. although someone
>> would need to have the rules for theses games
>> as we would need to cover quite a few of the areas to create a simple
>> dice game.
>> regards
>> dave
>>
>>
>> On 19 April 2013 10:24, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep... Got me, I was sloppy with my language. A million apologies, I
>> have
>>> let everyone down.
>>>
>>> I don't know the difference between the languages sufficiently to know
>>> which is best. Probably best to go with C then if anything. But don't
>>> choose on my requests. If PHP is more useful to people then go with that
>>>
>>> Blair
>>>
>>> Martin McGrath <mcgrath.martin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18 April 2013 23:36, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Depends on your choice of microprocessor. Arduino is where my
>>>> experience
>>>>> lies and it's c++ based as well as being about the most popular
>>>> platform
>>>>> for beginners.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything I have seen for the msp430 has been in c++ as well. Though I
>>>> know
>>>>> you can develop in c with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I am no expert in these matters. The only pic stuff I ever did
>>>> was in
>>>>> a language called Jal that never really took off.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah Microprocessor vs Microcontroller.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC the Arduino core libs are written in C and C++, most of the
>>>> application code I've seen is written in C.
>>>>
>>>> Plain old C has many advantages, less bloat, less runtime overheads etc
>>>> which I'd have thought would have made it more appealing that C++ for
>>>> the
>>>> Arduino, given the fairly limited resources.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Martin
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