[ELECTRON] Beginners Programming

Kyle Logan kylehlogan at gmail.com
Fri Apr 19 00:36:31 UTC 2013


I agree, I think understanding pseudocode is generally more important than
having a knowledge of a language's syntax when starting out.


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:19 AM, DAVID BALL <dave.ball2 at virgin.net> wrote:

> As i said i don't want this  to descend into a discussion of which language
> is better than  another. When i learned to program we never used any
> specific language  but  rather wrote  pseudo code and  studied the
> mathematics behind any  algorithms.
> .
>  as  I've  said  it  about understanding the core  principal that's why i
> think   the language is  irreverent.    once you  understand the  core
> principals
>
>
> On 19 April 2013 01:04, Alice <fleabite531 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > (My bias - I learned c first and never liked the "progression" to c++ as
> > programming stopped being fun then)
> >
> > Start with c. Its a neat, complete (imho)  and *fun* language that's
> quick
> > to get going with and I think encourages good practice. Python I think is
> > similar but just seems somehow best to have c as your foundation to build
> > up from.
> > On Apr 19, 2013 12:07 AM, "DAVID BALL" <dave.ball2 at virgin.net> wrote:
> >
> > > does no one program machine language anymore?  god that's the way i was
> > > taught to program microprocessors guess i'm showing my age
> > > ( and its how i got my  self  banned from john Menzies on sauchall
> street
> > > as  a kid
> > >  when i used machine  code on there zx spectrum's. to switch of the
> > > keyboard)
> > > the last time i programmed in C++ was in modeling leaky integrate and
> > fire
> > > neurons  as  my  final year project many moons  ago.
> > > but  as i've said c, c++ and c# are   all in the  same  family. as
> > Delphi,
> > > and Pascal are in the same  family, Basic and  visual  basic  etc...
> > >  each language  has its uses and  specialization. and  if there is one
> > > thing about programming and the  options available it is that there are
> > > many and each has its pros and cons. and i don't  want  this to descend
> > > into  an argument of the  pros and cons of one over the other.
> > >  so so  far i have  someone  wanting to learn  c++
> > >  and  someone  suggesting PHP.
> > >  do we have  any others?
> > >  what time would suit  people  to  have the first meeting and if not
> > Monday
> > > what  day would  people prefer.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > dave
> > >
> > >
> > > On 18 April 2013 23:36, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Depends on your choice of microprocessor. Arduino is where my
> > experience
> > > > lies and it's c++ based as well as being about the most popular
> > platform
> > > > for beginners.
> > > >
> > > > Anything I have seen for the msp430 has been in c++ as well. Though I
> > > know
> > > > you can develop in c with it.
> > > >
> > > > But I am no expert in these matters. The only pic stuff I ever did
> was
> > in
> > > > a language called Jal that never really took off.
> > > >
> > > > Martin McGrath <mcgrath.martin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On 18 April 2013 23:06, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> How much difference is there from c# to c++?  I would love to
> learn
> > > > >more
> > > > >> c++ as it is a popular language for microprocessor development as
> > > > >well as
> > > > >> software
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Blair
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >Do you have a reference for this? in my experience C wins every time
> > > > >over
> > > > >C++ when it comes to programming microprocessors.
> > > > >
> > > > >Martin
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