[ELECTRON] Beginners Programming

DAVID BALL dave.ball2 at virgin.net
Fri Apr 19 00:28:48 UTC 2013


sorry c++ link missing http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~wjk/C++Intro/#S1



On 19 April 2013 01:27, DAVID BALL <dave.ball2 at virgin.net> wrote:

> those interested in C++ this  looks  like a pretty  good  starting point.
>   for php http://coursesweb.net/php-mysql/variables-data-types looks like
> a good place to start
>
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>
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> On 19 April 2013 01:19, DAVID BALL <dave.ball2 at virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> As i said i don't want this  to descend into a discussion of which
>> language is better than  another. When i learned to program we never used
>> any specific language  but  rather wrote  pseudo code and  studied the
>> mathematics behind any  algorithms.
>> .
>>  as  I've  said  it  about understanding the core  principal that's why i
>> think   the language is  irreverent.    once you  understand the  core
>> principals
>>
>>
>> On 19 April 2013 01:04, Alice <fleabite531 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> (My bias - I learned c first and never liked the "progression" to c++ as
>>> programming stopped being fun then)
>>>
>>> Start with c. Its a neat, complete (imho)  and *fun* language that's
>>> quick
>>> to get going with and I think encourages good practice. Python I think is
>>> similar but just seems somehow best to have c as your foundation to build
>>> up from.
>>> On Apr 19, 2013 12:07 AM, "DAVID BALL" <dave.ball2 at virgin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > does no one program machine language anymore?  god that's the way i was
>>> > taught to program microprocessors guess i'm showing my age
>>> > ( and its how i got my  self  banned from john Menzies on sauchall
>>> street
>>> > as  a kid
>>> >  when i used machine  code on there zx spectrum's. to switch of the
>>> > keyboard)
>>> > the last time i programmed in C++ was in modeling leaky integrate and
>>> fire
>>> > neurons  as  my  final year project many moons  ago.
>>> > but  as i've said c, c++ and c# are   all in the  same  family. as
>>> Delphi,
>>> > and Pascal are in the same  family, Basic and  visual  basic  etc...
>>> >  each language  has its uses and  specialization. and  if there is one
>>> > thing about programming and the  options available it is that there are
>>> > many and each has its pros and cons. and i don't  want  this to descend
>>> > into  an argument of the  pros and cons of one over the other.
>>> >  so so  far i have  someone  wanting to learn  c++
>>> >  and  someone  suggesting PHP.
>>> >  do we have  any others?
>>> >  what time would suit  people  to  have the first meeting and if not
>>> Monday
>>> > what  day would  people prefer.
>>> >
>>> > regards
>>> > dave
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 18 April 2013 23:36, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Depends on your choice of microprocessor. Arduino is where my
>>> experience
>>> > > lies and it's c++ based as well as being about the most popular
>>> platform
>>> > > for beginners.
>>> > >
>>> > > Anything I have seen for the msp430 has been in c++ as well. Though I
>>> > know
>>> > > you can develop in c with it.
>>> > >
>>> > > But I am no expert in these matters. The only pic stuff I ever did
>>> was in
>>> > > a language called Jal that never really took off.
>>> > >
>>> > > Martin McGrath <mcgrath.martin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > >On 18 April 2013 23:06, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> How much difference is there from c# to c++?  I would love to
>>> learn
>>> > > >more
>>> > > >> c++ as it is a popular language for microprocessor development as
>>> > > >well as
>>> > > >> software
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Blair
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >Do you have a reference for this? in my experience C wins every time
>>> > > >over
>>> > > >C++ when it comes to programming microprocessors.
>>> > > >
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