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computers are clean and fully patched and that the router is as secure as
possible from a WIFI perspective are prudent in that if the systems have
been compromised, part of a botnet, seeding something they shouldn't be, I
can put a stop to that. As suggested changing the WIFI encryption to WPA2
and periodically changing the password is also wise.
In the short term, pending time spent on research and potentially changing
broadband contracts (I'm not even sure if that's on the cards) asking the
provider to cap the bandwidth is a sensible approach, so we don't get stung
for another bill. At no point in the discussion has it been suggested that
such a change would be permanent.
If anything this has served as a lesson, albeit a costly one.
Relax
On 19 December 2010 21:14, Cap'n Smollet <
smollet at piratepress.doesntexist.org> wrote:
> Wait, what?
>
> We have a club broadband link and you're talking about capping it?
> People don't have to be technically astute or breaking the law to be
> bandwidth hungry. I'd wager that watching endless tripe on youtube will
> generate more traffic than someone technically astute seeding a Linux
> ISO.
>
> We've got users, and a network, do we really want to obsolete the
> network because everybody can sign in with a smartphone and use some
> bandwidth? Or do we want to upgrade it so we still have a network to
> use?
>
> I get that the overage charges are a bit pants, but why the hell do we
> have a contract with overage charges? Why has nobody gone to samknows
> and figured out which companies can fix the problem?
>
> I'm sorry, it sounds a bit like a BOFH blaming users for using the
> network. What else are they there for? If the network uplink doesn't
> have the capacity to support the amount of use it's getting, how on
> earth is that the fault of the users? I didn't get told "This is the
> Electron Club wireless network, FFS don't use it for anything bandwidth
> intensive!" Did any other users get told that? If the admin and ops are
> not telling the users not to click on the video links while they're on
> facebook over the electron club wifi, then they have no cause to blame
> the users for using the service.
>
> I can chuck a quid in for the overage too, but bloody hell, someone has
> to deal with the underlying problem so we aren't here again when the
> next bill comes in.
>
> I have mates that get good service from www.bethere.co.uk at a nearby
> exchange. Please don't make us pay for shit service.
>
>
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I think the previous emails on the subject have suggested various potential=
causes for this bandwidth usage without blaming anyone, which you seem to =
believe is the case.<br><br>From a standpoint of my proposed actions for Tu=
esday, making sure the club computers are clean and fully patched and that =
the router is as secure as possible from a WIFI perspective are prudent in =
that if the systems have been compromised, part of a botnet, seeding someth=
ing they shouldn't be, I can put a stop to that. As suggested changing =
the WIFI encryption to WPA2 and periodically changing the password is also =
wise.<br>
<br>In the short term, pending time spent on research and potentially chang=
ing broadband contracts (I'm not even sure if that's on the cards) =
asking the provider to cap the bandwidth is a sensible approach, so we don&=
#39;t get stung for another bill. At no point in the discussion has it been=
suggested that such a change would be permanent. <br>
<br>If anything this has served as a lesson, albeit a costly one.<br><br>Re=
lax<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 19 December 2010 21:14, Cap'n =
Smollet <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:smollet at piratepress.doesnte=
xist.org">smollet at piratepress.doesntexist.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Wait, what?<br>
<br>
We have a club broadband link and you're talking about capping it?<br>
People don't have to be technically astute or breaking the law to be<br=
>
bandwidth hungry. I'd wager that watching endless tripe on youtube will=
<br>
generate more traffic than someone technically astute seeding a Linux<br>
ISO.<br>
<br>
We've got users, and a network, do we really want to obsolete the<br>
network because everybody can sign in with a smartphone and use some<br>
bandwidth? Or do we want to upgrade it so we still have a network to<br>
use?<br>
<br>
I get that the overage charges are a bit pants, but why the hell do we<br>
have a contract with overage charges? Why has nobody gone to samknows<br>
and figured out which companies can fix the problem?<br>
<br>
I'm sorry, it sounds a bit like a BOFH blaming users for using the<br>
network. What else are they there for? If the network uplink doesn't<br=
>
have the capacity to support the amount of use it's getting, how on<br>
earth is that the fault of the users? I didn't get told "This is t=
he<br>
Electron Club wireless network, FFS don't use it for anything bandwidth=
<br>
intensive!" Did any other users get told that? If the admin and ops ar=
e<br>
not telling the users not to click on the video links while they're on<=
br>
facebook over the electron club wifi, then they have no cause to blame<br>
the users for using the service.<br>
<br>
I can chuck a quid in for the overage too, but bloody hell, someone has<br>
to deal with the underlying problem so we aren't here again when the<br=
>
next bill comes in.<br>
<br>
I have mates that get good service from <a href=3D"http://www.bethere.co.uk=
" target=3D"_blank">www.bethere.co.uk</a> at a nearby<br>
exchange. Please don't make us pay for shit service.<br>
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