[ELECTRON] Beginners Programming

DAVID BALL dave.ball2 at virgin.net
Fri Apr 19 12:34:11 UTC 2013


Can someone tell  me  what IDE's are installed on the PCs in the  club room.
So i can create  relevant example


On 19 April 2013 13:08, DAVID BALL <dave.ball2 at virgin.net> wrote:

> thanks john, what time is suitable for  those interested. as i said I'm
> off this Monday so was wondering if we could have a couple of hours then. i
> did notice that the room is booked  already at 7-9 so i was thinking
> perhaps  before  that  if it  was suitable to people starting whenever.
> i was planning of running it  from the view point that no one has  any
> experience at all. and i'm happy to  cover both PHP and a C language  if
> that is useful. i know it can seem quite daunting  to begin with  but  my
> plan is to work through some simple examples. getting you used to the basic
> principal, getting you to tackle some simple problems and building on the
> knowledge and previous work to  help you improve your understanding.
> so in the first session i would think the  we  should be able to cover
> data types, variables,  functions, classes, procedures, objects,
> libraries,  and then use them to look at creating a very  simple  text
> based dice  game.
> we could then over time look at  how we  would expand this simple game. i
> find its always  good to set a  problem and  see what issue arise and then
> tackle the issue and use any issues people have in the wrap up of the
> lesson so everyone  can  benefit  from the improved understanding resolving
> the issue  has given.
> regards
> dave
>
>
> On 19 April 2013 12:35, JOHN COUZIN <john.c.at95 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>    Bob and I were the ones who suggested some sort of course in very
>> basic coding, and I admit that my knowledge in this field is ziltch. The
>> more I read the flowing emails, the more confused I get. What I personally
>> was looking for was some very basic knowledge in coding that would help we
>> further develop my wordpress site and my mediawiki site. What that
>> knowledge would be I'm not at all sure. so for me it would be the very
>> basics. I would leave it up to the "teacher" to lay out the course along
>> the lines that he thinks are best suit to that purpose, and we could
>> concentrate on setting a time.    John
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>  From: DAVID BALL <dave.ball2 at virgin.net>
>> To: Discussion list for the Electron Club <members at electronclub.org>
>> Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013, 11:54
>> Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] Beginners Programming
>>
>>
>> Blair I don't care which language people want to learn,  the group can
>> cover them  all as far as concerned as I've said  before all the c
>> languages are part of the same family tree.
>> i was thinking for the  first group to cover  some main area's of
>> programming.
>> Such as  variables, types, classes, functions, procedures, etc and perhaps
>> look at the  differences  and similarities between    the languages people
>> want to learn.
>> i think it would be good to have  some actual problem to solve, someone
>> mentioned yathzee  which maybe a bit complicated for the first meeting
>> but
>> perhaps we can use it as a starting point.
>> by that i mean  we  could look at identifying what would be need to write
>> a
>> yathzee type  game perhaps starting out with a craps. although someone
>> would need to  have the rules for  theses games
>> as we  would need to cover quite a few  of the areas  to  create a simple
>> dice game.
>> regards
>> dave
>>
>>
>> On 19 April 2013 10:24, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > Yep...  Got me, I was sloppy with my language. A million apologies, I
>> have
>> > let everyone down.
>> >
>> > I don't know the difference between the languages sufficiently to know
>> > which is best. Probably best to go with C then if anything. But don't
>> > choose on my requests. If PHP is more useful to people then go with that
>> >
>> > Blair
>> >
>> > Martin McGrath <mcgrath.martin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On 18 April 2013 23:36, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Depends on your choice of microprocessor. Arduino is where my
>> > >experience
>> > >> lies and it's c++ based as well as being about the most popular
>> > >platform
>> > >> for beginners.
>> > >>
>> > >> Anything I have seen for the msp430 has been in c++ as well. Though I
>> > >know
>> > >> you can develop in c with it.
>> > >>
>> > >> But I am no expert in these matters. The only pic stuff I ever did
>> > >was in
>> > >> a language called Jal that never really took off.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >Ah Microprocessor vs Microcontroller.
>> > >
>> > >IIRC the Arduino core libs are written in C and C++, most of the
>> > >application code I've seen is written in C.
>> > >
>> > >Plain old C has many advantages, less bloat, less runtime overheads etc
>> > >which I'd have thought would have made it more appealing that C++ for
>> > >the
>> > >Arduino, given the fairly limited resources.
>> > >
>> > >Cheers
>> > >
>> > >Martin
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