[ELECTRON] Beginners Programming
DAVID BALL
dave.ball2 at virgin.net
Fri Apr 19 12:34:11 UTC 2013
Can someone tell me what IDE's are installed on the PCs in the club room.
So i can create relevant example
On 19 April 2013 13:08, DAVID BALL <dave.ball2 at virgin.net> wrote:
> thanks john, what time is suitable for those interested. as i said I'm
> off this Monday so was wondering if we could have a couple of hours then. i
> did notice that the room is booked already at 7-9 so i was thinking
> perhaps before that if it was suitable to people starting whenever.
> i was planning of running it from the view point that no one has any
> experience at all. and i'm happy to cover both PHP and a C language if
> that is useful. i know it can seem quite daunting to begin with but my
> plan is to work through some simple examples. getting you used to the basic
> principal, getting you to tackle some simple problems and building on the
> knowledge and previous work to help you improve your understanding.
> so in the first session i would think the we should be able to cover
> data types, variables, functions, classes, procedures, objects,
> libraries, and then use them to look at creating a very simple text
> based dice game.
> we could then over time look at how we would expand this simple game. i
> find its always good to set a problem and see what issue arise and then
> tackle the issue and use any issues people have in the wrap up of the
> lesson so everyone can benefit from the improved understanding resolving
> the issue has given.
> regards
> dave
>
>
> On 19 April 2013 12:35, JOHN COUZIN <john.c.at95 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Bob and I were the ones who suggested some sort of course in very
>> basic coding, and I admit that my knowledge in this field is ziltch. The
>> more I read the flowing emails, the more confused I get. What I personally
>> was looking for was some very basic knowledge in coding that would help we
>> further develop my wordpress site and my mediawiki site. What that
>> knowledge would be I'm not at all sure. so for me it would be the very
>> basics. I would leave it up to the "teacher" to lay out the course along
>> the lines that he thinks are best suit to that purpose, and we could
>> concentrate on setting a time. John
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DAVID BALL <dave.ball2 at virgin.net>
>> To: Discussion list for the Electron Club <members at electronclub.org>
>> Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013, 11:54
>> Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] Beginners Programming
>>
>>
>> Blair I don't care which language people want to learn, the group can
>> cover them all as far as concerned as I've said before all the c
>> languages are part of the same family tree.
>> i was thinking for the first group to cover some main area's of
>> programming.
>> Such as variables, types, classes, functions, procedures, etc and perhaps
>> look at the differences and similarities between the languages people
>> want to learn.
>> i think it would be good to have some actual problem to solve, someone
>> mentioned yathzee which maybe a bit complicated for the first meeting
>> but
>> perhaps we can use it as a starting point.
>> by that i mean we could look at identifying what would be need to write
>> a
>> yathzee type game perhaps starting out with a craps. although someone
>> would need to have the rules for theses games
>> as we would need to cover quite a few of the areas to create a simple
>> dice game.
>> regards
>> dave
>>
>>
>> On 19 April 2013 10:24, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > Yep... Got me, I was sloppy with my language. A million apologies, I
>> have
>> > let everyone down.
>> >
>> > I don't know the difference between the languages sufficiently to know
>> > which is best. Probably best to go with C then if anything. But don't
>> > choose on my requests. If PHP is more useful to people then go with that
>> >
>> > Blair
>> >
>> > Martin McGrath <mcgrath.martin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On 18 April 2013 23:36, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Depends on your choice of microprocessor. Arduino is where my
>> > >experience
>> > >> lies and it's c++ based as well as being about the most popular
>> > >platform
>> > >> for beginners.
>> > >>
>> > >> Anything I have seen for the msp430 has been in c++ as well. Though I
>> > >know
>> > >> you can develop in c with it.
>> > >>
>> > >> But I am no expert in these matters. The only pic stuff I ever did
>> > >was in
>> > >> a language called Jal that never really took off.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >Ah Microprocessor vs Microcontroller.
>> > >
>> > >IIRC the Arduino core libs are written in C and C++, most of the
>> > >application code I've seen is written in C.
>> > >
>> > >Plain old C has many advantages, less bloat, less runtime overheads etc
>> > >which I'd have thought would have made it more appealing that C++ for
>> > >the
>> > >Arduino, given the fairly limited resources.
>> > >
>> > >Cheers
>> > >
>> > >Martin
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