[ELECTRON] Beginners Programming

DAVID BALL dave.ball2 at virgin.net
Fri Apr 19 00:19:32 UTC 2013


As i said i don't want this  to descend into a discussion of which language
is better than  another. When i learned to program we never used any
specific language  but  rather wrote  pseudo code and  studied the
mathematics behind any  algorithms.
.
 as  I've  said  it  about understanding the core  principal that's why i
think   the language is  irreverent.    once you  understand the  core
principals


On 19 April 2013 01:04, Alice <fleabite531 at gmail.com> wrote:

> (My bias - I learned c first and never liked the "progression" to c++ as
> programming stopped being fun then)
>
> Start with c. Its a neat, complete (imho)  and *fun* language that's quick
> to get going with and I think encourages good practice. Python I think is
> similar but just seems somehow best to have c as your foundation to build
> up from.
> On Apr 19, 2013 12:07 AM, "DAVID BALL" <dave.ball2 at virgin.net> wrote:
>
> > does no one program machine language anymore?  god that's the way i was
> > taught to program microprocessors guess i'm showing my age
> > ( and its how i got my  self  banned from john Menzies on sauchall street
> > as  a kid
> >  when i used machine  code on there zx spectrum's. to switch of the
> > keyboard)
> > the last time i programmed in C++ was in modeling leaky integrate and
> fire
> > neurons  as  my  final year project many moons  ago.
> > but  as i've said c, c++ and c# are   all in the  same  family. as
> Delphi,
> > and Pascal are in the same  family, Basic and  visual  basic  etc...
> >  each language  has its uses and  specialization. and  if there is one
> > thing about programming and the  options available it is that there are
> > many and each has its pros and cons. and i don't  want  this to descend
> > into  an argument of the  pros and cons of one over the other.
> >  so so  far i have  someone  wanting to learn  c++
> >  and  someone  suggesting PHP.
> >  do we have  any others?
> >  what time would suit  people  to  have the first meeting and if not
> Monday
> > what  day would  people prefer.
> >
> > regards
> > dave
> >
> >
> > On 18 April 2013 23:36, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Depends on your choice of microprocessor. Arduino is where my
> experience
> > > lies and it's c++ based as well as being about the most popular
> platform
> > > for beginners.
> > >
> > > Anything I have seen for the msp430 has been in c++ as well. Though I
> > know
> > > you can develop in c with it.
> > >
> > > But I am no expert in these matters. The only pic stuff I ever did was
> in
> > > a language called Jal that never really took off.
> > >
> > > Martin McGrath <mcgrath.martin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On 18 April 2013 23:06, Blair Thompson <mail at justblair.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> How much difference is there from c# to c++?  I would love to learn
> > > >more
> > > >> c++ as it is a popular language for microprocessor development as
> > > >well as
> > > >> software
> > > >>
> > > >> Blair
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Do you have a reference for this? in my experience C wins every time
> > > >over
> > > >C++ when it comes to programming microprocessors.
> > > >
> > > >Martin
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