[ELECTRON] Keeping stuff tidy

Paola Di Maio paola.dimaio at gmail.com
Sat Oct 29 08:11:22 UTC 2011


I met Bob once briefly the first time we use the club, and he made sure the
space  was avaialable for us /everyone,together with everything we needed
I totally simpathize for people who do something, then others undo it, and
they become upset.
A community shared space can only work if there is clear communication
(labels?), respect for other people work (ie. not undo the pile on purpose!)
and tolerance, a lot of tolerance for mistakes (has the person /s who has
undone the piles come forward and apologise for undoing the piles? did they
explain their motives?)

The challenge for this community, like any other, is to make the community
principles work. Can people cohexist without getting at each other's throat?
Can we function as an unregulated, self organised whole/parts?

By being inflexible and intolerant with other people mistakes (leaving a
pile unlabelled, and undoing the pile without asking to the list first:what
re those piles for? were both mistakes imho)

For some reason, compassion has been at the heart of EC when Simon was
coordinating it, some individuals manage to have that influence. Now that he
is not around, people start getting at each other's throats for silly
reasons, very silly.

Let me suggest, for self- organisation's sake, to find a way to both make
yourself at home, as well as make everyone else feel at home, like I was
made feel at home when I
found this wonderful place

As far as I remember Bob has been around since the beginning and has greatly
contributed to the existence of EC, and although he may not always be right,
he has always work to ensure EC is there for everybody, and we should be
thankful for that

end of wisdom

peace

PDM



On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:05 PM, <smollet at piratepress.doesntexist.org>wrote:

> Can we find a hackerspace that doesn't have anything to do with Bob? He was
> asking about this issue, when all i have to go on is what has been written
> on this list. He even got to the point where he said that since he wasn't
> trying to hassle me, I had no right to feel hassled.
>
> I didn't think the point of a hackerspace was to invalidate the experiences
> of others. I see no other behaviour from Bob, since his unsorting of stuff
> is something that he seems to feel he has an intrinsic right to do. It is
> no
> longer a collective space in my opinion. It is domain of Bob. Let him keep
> it to himself. He can be the only value remaining in the space for all I
> care.
>
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