[ELECTRON] [SPAM?] Re: pillows and videos

[Benjamin Dembroski]

There is a guide online for the appropriate use of the space:
http://www.electronclub.org/doku.php?id=what_is_the_electron_club

I think there is a fine line here.  One the one hand, I don't think anyone would suggest that blantanly discriminatory or hateful activities should be tolerated. On the other hand, I'd suggest that a little offence and discomfort is a healthy thing from time to time.  It's just part of having an environment that fosters debate and discussion.

The EC being as open as it is means there will always be differring opinions and attitudes about almost everything.  If anyone wants to hang out in place where everyone thinks the same way and your statements will go unchallanged, the EC probably isn't it.  On the other hand, if you want to be part of a community where you can enter into a wider discourse on technology and how it's used, you certainly are in the right place.

--
Ben

On 10 Nov 2011, at 12:34, m.hersh <m.hersh at elec.gla.ac.uk> wrote:

> My question about whether or not this was a joke was a genuine request
> for information.  I nearly sent an email saying that I thought this was
> an inappropriate use of the Electron Club.  Then it occurred to me that
> this could be a 'joke', so I thought I should check it.  However, this
> does raise the issue of what uses are and are not appropriate.  While I
> do think that the wide range of uses we have a present is a strenght of
> the club, I think we do not to be careful with uses which could make
> some groups of people feel uncomfortable.
> Marion
> 
> On 10/11/2011 10:55, Alice wrote:
>> On Nov 10, 2011 7:27 AM, "Gordon JC Pearce" <gordonjcp at gjcp.net> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> I don't want to place myself in a situation where I have to deal with
>> people who may become angry and abusive because I accidentally poke their
>> delicate sensibilities, and I don't want to have to walk on eggshells lest
>> I upset the Vegan Christian Lesbian Nicaraguan Amputees Against Whaling
>> movement.
>> 
>> I wasn't that bothered by the "joke" but then I was a programmer for 4
>> years a decade ago so had to become desensitised to objectification of
>> women to fit into the very male environment of back then.
>> 
>> I am very bothered though by the responses to Marion saying she found it
>> offensive, especially  marginalising feminism like this.
>> 
>>> You'll get my backing when you stop discriminating against men.
>> Where was there any discrimination against men?
>> 
>> Do you think that the Electron club is somewhere that it is more likely
>> males or females might feel isolated and uncomfortable due to their sex?
>> 
>> How can we create a space where nobody feels less able to participate due
>> to sex, race or class?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Alice
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