[ELECTRON] fablabs

Thu Oct 7 12:16:58 UTC 2010

That is basically the idea of the Glasgow Fablabs google group! The proposal
Bruce has put together recently was mainly formed from info on the group
pages, will see if I can put it up on the group.

I like the idea of a distributed approach certainly, the more the merrier.
Strategically speaking, one has to come first, and a fablab is a costly
thing, so personally I think concentrating on one initially is the right way
to go.

Would be good continue this on the fablab group as it may be a bit off topic
for many electron club members.
cheers,

Roy

On 7 October 2010 12:21, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Roy
>
> why not put together an open proposal (share on googledocs) and submit it
> to as many places as possible
> ideally, if more than one organisations buys into the idea of supporting a
> fablab in Glasgow, it could be a distributed
> operation with many outlets/places etc
>
> Let us know how can we help
> I would like to build a holographic projector
>
> cheers
> PDM
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Roy Mohan Shearer <fy81le at googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> We may be getting somewhere with the Lighthouse but it is early days yet.
>> Will forward you my latest Paola.
>>
>> Roy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 October 2010 16:55, makerfair <
>> mcmadsat09-makerfairglasgow at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>  In fact I orignally had an idea to do it in the underused architectural
>>> workshops but they have now had a makeover so perhaps not so much underused!
>>> But I bet some other workshops are.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> *Nina Baker*
>>>
>>> Failing to plan = Planning to fail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 5/10/10, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] fablabs
>>> To: "Discussion list for the Electron Club" <members at electronclub.org>
>>> Date: Tuesday, 5 October, 2010, 15:36
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Andrew and Nima
>>>
>>> I am a researcher at DMEM Strathclyde Uni
>>> Lets put together a proposal?
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:30 PM, makerfair <
>>> mcmadsat09-makerfairglasgow at yahoo.co.uk<http://uk.mc866.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mcmadsat09-makerfairglasgow@yahoo.co.uk>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>   I had always hoped there might be an empty space in one of the
>>> universities that could be accessed via a public door at weekends and
>>> evenings and via an internal door in office hours.
>>>
>>> I think the only sensible route is for folks to pay for training courses
>>> and then pay a modest membership or hourly rate thereafter. It cannot be
>>> free in either the cost or the access senses, since the most basic health
>>> and safety requires some training even to use ordinary hand tools.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> *Nina Baker*
>>>
>>> Failing to plan = Planning to fail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 5/10/10, Andrew Back <andy at smokebelch.org<http://uk.mc866.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=andy@smokebelch.org>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Andrew Back <andy at smokebelch.org<http://uk.mc866.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=andy@smokebelch.org>
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] fablabs
>>> To: "Discussion list for the Electron Club" <members at electronclub.org<http://uk.mc866.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=members@electronclub.org>
>>> >
>>> Date: Tuesday, 5 October, 2010, 14:45
>>>
>>>
>>> On (14:00 05/10/10), Paola Di Maio wrote:
>>> > Thanks Roy
>>> >
>>> > signed up to the list
>>> > It would be good to have some models of how other fablabs set up
>>> > Do you know where the funding comes from?
>>>
>>> Since they tend to involve a lot more costly machinery I get the
>>> impression
>>> that they are member funded. The one in Manchester is free to use Fri/Sat
>>> and the rest of the time is for paying customers. The much bigger Bay
>>> Area
>>> TechShop has various levels of membership but it's never free AFAIK [1].
>>> Manchester's does seem to have support from various agencies also, as may
>>> the Bay Area one.
>>>
>>> I'd imagine that, just like hackspaces, you could operate/fund a fablab
>>> various ways. If you can get funding and/or space etc it could be free
>>> like
>>> Electron Club, or you could take an approach similar to London Hackspace
>>> and
>>> charge a monthly subscription. Obviously bearing in mind that the
>>> tooling:
>>>
>>> - is likely to be much more expensive
>>> - could be easier to cause costly damage if careless
>>> - will consume more electricity (some may need 3-phase)
>>>
>>> You might need insurance given the risks, e.g. the classic hair/necktie
>>> caught in a lathe or pedestal drill. And would almost certainly need to
>>> organise induction for people. Might need to do COSHH assessments and
>>> other
>>> H&S stuff for machine oils, cutting pastes and brazing fluxes etc.
>>>
>>> That said you could probably just have a shed somewhere with a few small
>>> donated machine tools in it. If it's just a few friends... I suppose it
>>> really depends how ambitious and open it will be.
>>>
>>> My personal opinion is that every city and medium sized town ought to
>>> have
>>> one provided as a public service and operated like a library. But this
>>> isn't
>>> likely any time soon!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.techshop.ws/Join_Now.html
>>>
>>>
>>> > I am thinking of doing some web based video interviews with other fab
>>> lab
>>> > organisers to
>>> > leearn their knowhow and model
>>> >
>>> > whatdyathink?
>>> >
>>> > P
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Roy Mohan Shearer <
>>> fy81le at googlemail.com<http://uk.mc866.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fy81le@googlemail.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Paola,
>>> > >
>>> > > Please do join us at
>>> > > http://groups.google.co.uk/group/glasgowfablabs
>>> > > and check out/add to the research pages there. Myself and Bruce are
>>> > > plugging away at things as much as we can but only have limited time
>>> > > so more help/ideas are always appreciated. There is indeed a demand
>>> > > for a fablab here, just need to figure out the wheres, whats and
>>> hows.
>>> > >
>>> > > Roy Mohan Shearer
>>> > > (post-)Industrial Designer
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>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On 3 October 2010 14:05, Martin McGrath <mcgrath.martin at gmail.com<http://uk.mc866.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mcgrath.martin@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > Paola,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > See http://www.electronclub.org/doku.php?id=groups:glasgow_fablab
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Cheers
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On 3 October 2010 13:52, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio at gmail.com<http://uk.mc866.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paola.dimaio@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Just got back from a trip to Holland where I came  came across
>>> FabLab
>>> > > >>  Nederlands
>>> > > >> I am starting some research there
>>> > > >> Somewhat related to electron agends , thought i'd ping this
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > >
>>> http://www.iom3.org/news/fabricating-feedom-uks-first-fab-lab-opens-manchester
>>> > > >> Could electron host a fablab instance for Scotland? would be
>>> interested
>>> > > to
>>> > > >> help to make it happen
>>> > > >> cheers
>>> > > >> PDM
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