[ELECTRON] broadband costs

Thu Apr 30 15:46:49 UTC 2009

On (22:02 27/04/09), Simon Yuill wrote:
> Hi Paula,
> 
> Thanks! That's a good start. It gives us ?100 towards the  2 year total,
> of which a potential ?50 could go towards the basic startup cost.
> 
> I'd be willing to match that, which would give us a starting amount of
> ?200 towards the 2 year cost.

Put me down for 20.

Cheers,

Andrew

> best wishes
> Si
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Document wrote:
> > Sounds good to me. Document could potentially give something once we
> > hear of funding say ?50 pa
> > 
> > Paula
> > 
> > On 27/04/2009, Simon Yuill <simon at lipparosa.org> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>  I have spoken with the the Phone Co-op to get details on what would be
> >>  the best broadband package for us.
> >>
> >>  The one that looks best value is one for small businesses they offer
> >>  called 'Business Saver 10':
> >>
> >>         http://www.thephone.coop/business/soho.html
> >>
> >>  Costs are:
> >>
> >>         ?19 + VAT a month for line rental and broadband
> >>         ?99 + VAT for line installation
> >>         ?46.59 + VAT for a ZyXel 660H 4 Port Ethernet Router/Hub, preconfigured
> >>  with firewall (this is optional, if we can provide our own ADSL2+
> >>  modem-router)
> >>         no setup fee
> >>
> >>  Phone calls are charged separately, depending on usage. The call charges
> >>  are:
> >>
> >>         1.98p per minute - peak local
> >>         1.99p per minute - peak national
> >>         0.85p per minute - offpeak local
> >>         1.3p per minute - offpeak national
> >>         1.26p per minute - weekend national
> >>         11p per minute - peak to all mobile networks
> >>         8.5p per minute - offpeak to all mobile networks
> >>
> >>  We have to commit to a 12 month initial contract. We can pay either in
> >>  monthly installments by direct debit or in a lump sum in advance.
> >>
> >>  Although the total monthly usage is much lower than the cheapest
> >>  domestic package (Anytime Saver gives 40MB compared to the 10GB for the
> >>  business package), the upload speed for business customers is much
> >>  higher than for home users. Upload speed for business is 1024kbps
> >>  compared to 448Kbps for home users.
> >>
> >>  10GB may not sound much but provided we are not downloading loads of
> >>  video content it's quite a lot. There is a calculator here to help
> >>  estimate how much would be used:
> >>
> >>  http://www.thephone.coop/residential/broadband/capacity-calculator.html
> >>
> >>  Assuming in one month that people send 2,000 standard emails, 1,000 with
> >>  images, spend 3 hours day surfing, watch 200 video clips, download 10
> >>  pieces of software and make 2 big downloads, then that all comes to:
> >>  5.09 GB, well within the 10GB limit.
> >>
> >>
> >>  The cost for the first year would be:
> >>
> >>         line installation:      ?99.00
> >>         ADSL modem              ?46.59
> >>         1 year's broadband      ?228.00
> >>         total (exc VAT):        ?373.59
> >>
> >>         VAT at 17.5%:           ?65.38
> >>         total (inc VAT):        ?438.97
> >>
> >>
> >>  If we are going to raise funds for this, it might be sensible to try and
> >>  raise enough to cover 2 years broadband usage, which would add an
> >>  additional ?267.90 (?228.00 + VAT). So the total for setup and 2 years
> >>  broadband would be:
> >>
> >>         2 years (inc VAT):      ?706.87
> >>
> >>  I had a chat with Francis McKee, the director of CCA about this, and
> >>  asked if they would be willing to chip in if we shared the broadband
> >>  with them. This would be only for use in the Artist's Flat and the
> >>  gallery spaces, not part of the public wifi access or CCA office usage.
> >>  The Artist's Flat and gallery are two areas where the CCA sometimes need
> >>  a more specialised internet access for artist doing web-based work (such
> >>  as Martine Crispo who some of you might have met last year). Usage from
> >>  these two sources would vary depending on what kind of artists and
> >>  exhibitions they had in and is unlikely to be constant throughout the
> >>  year. Francis has said that they would be interested in contributing -
> >>  although final decision does not rest with him. Now that I have some
> >>  concrete costs I will get back in touch and see what they say.
> >>
> >>  In terms of making this happen at a practical level we have potentially
> >>  3 sources of funding this:
> >>
> >>         - voluntary donations from groups and individuals currently using the
> >>  space who want to make use of the broadband
> >>         - a possible contribution from the CCA
> >>         - money raised from fund-raising event
> >>
> >>  Now that we have some concrete figures it would be good to hear from
> >>  those who would be up for donating so we can get a sense of how much we
> >>  have there.
> >>
> >>  Also, in terms of getting it off the ground sooner rather than later one
> >>  way to approach it might be to pull together enough for the basic
> >>  install plus 3 months broadband, this would be: ?238.04. Then raise the
> >>  rest from CCA and the fund-raising event.
> >>
> >>  So what kind of fund-raising event? Well, we had a meeting last week and
> >>  I think Dan is going to get back to the list about that.
> >>
> >>
> >>  To get things started however, it would be good to get some feedback
> >>  from those interested in us having broadband.
> >>
> >>
> >>  best wishes
> >>  Si
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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